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Post by Andrew Ashton on Jan 29, 2013 12:05:51 GMT -6
The actions of one person shouldn't be held against the federation as a whole. The people who run the federation, there job is to get results up on time, judge our writing, solve problems when they happen. I know there is a lot of anger and I can completely understand why, but basing it on the federation as a whole is the wrong way to go. The issue was brought up to the people in charge and they've informed that action will be taken the first opportunity they get. It's not them waiting for it to roll over or anything, they're just waiting to be online at the same time. The whole argument about there being previous issues, people change, second chances are given.
The person that this was all about has called it quits. If there have been issues with other people that have also come up, bring it up with the fed heads and it will be dealt with too. They're doing their best.
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Post by Daisuke Iwakuma on Jan 29, 2013 12:07:44 GMT -6
I could kiss you if you weren't so slimy, Squid.
That, and if you weren't such a dirty ManU fan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 12:10:09 GMT -6
The actions of one person shouldn't be held against the federation as a whole. The people who run the federation, there job is to get results up on time, judge our writing, solve problems when they happen. I know there is a lot of anger and I can completely understand why, but basing it on the federation as a whole is the wrong way to go. The issue was brought up to the people in charge and they've informed that action will be taken the first opportunity they get. It's not them waiting for it to roll over or anything, they're just waiting to be online at the same time. The whole argument about there being previous issues, people change, second chances are given. The person that this was all about has called it quits. If there have been issues with other people that have also come up, bring it up with the fed heads and it will be dealt with too. They're doing their best. This guy's on to something.
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Post by EXODUS Office on Jan 29, 2013 12:12:46 GMT -6
Hiiii everyone, Clint here.
Originally, because both SS and OO attempted to keep this as a "surprise" to me and Jon, we weren't aware of their identities. That has since become public knowledge, and with it, the problems we've known in the past about James. I understand that, from reading the above posts, he's already resigned from E-Pro, but I'm feeling it's in the best interests of myself, Jonathan, and the rest of the EXODUS Pro roster of handlers, that he be banned from our community.
Should he contact you via AIM, I'd encourage you to block him. I believe the saying is, "Don't feed the trolls," and while I think that's part of what happened in this incident, I cannot excuse James' behavior in any way.
Furthermore, if anyone's interactions with him have soured you on EXODUS, then I profusely apologize. He does not, has not, nor will ever represent myself or Jon, much less this e-fed. If you still feel like this community is not for you, despite my apologies and note that he was never an official representative of us, then please contact me directly, either through PM, DM, or AIM.
Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 12:16:34 GMT -6
you didn't know? that's... not what I heard.
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Post by Andrew Ashton on Jan 29, 2013 12:20:45 GMT -6
As the guy who was his tag team partner, this has hit me too. We went from talking last night about how we're looking forward to our match, talking about how we're going to try and produce gold in our roleplays, how the future of the tag team could pan out, to coming online in work and seeing this. I've told him I'm disappointed in it. I can completely understand the anger that everyone else is showing, especially Summer and her close friends. Nobody wants to see anybody spoken to that way.
Jon was the first person online to see all of this unfold and right away he said something is going to be done. Sure, there was a jump before there was a shove, but I think the outcome would have been the same anyway, judging on conversations I had with Jon. He just couldn't make that decision without the rest of the staff being present, and lets be honest, there wasn't really any way that any other staff member could say cutting loose wasn't the answer.
They're good people, they run a good federation where they give equal opportunities to everyone, even people not a permanent fixture in the fed, giving them chances at their first supershow. Don't give up on them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 12:22:11 GMT -6
you didn't know? that's... not what I heard. Then you heard wrong. Jon and I quickly determined the identity of Silver Squid based off of his email, but it was not until just before the last show (TV #3) that we correctly identified the identity of Orange Octopus. Once we contacted him directly, rather than through SS, we were told multiple times that he was "more mature" and wouldn't cause problems. Problems...like this. But at the first sign of any incident (that we became aware of), the situation was handled as swiftly as possible.
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Post by Daisuke Iwakuma on Jan 29, 2013 12:26:51 GMT -6
What Clint said is absolutely true. We did not know his identity and we were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because it had been at least 8 years since I have interacted with him.
To those who have been offended by his actions, I also apologize and hope this will remedy the matter.
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Post by Andrew Ashton on Jan 29, 2013 12:27:37 GMT -6
you didn't know? that's... not what I heard. Then you heard wrong. Jon and I quickly determined the identity of Silver Squid based off of his email, but it was not until just before the last show (TV #3) that we correctly identified the identity of Orange Octopus. Once we contacted him directly, rather than through SS, we were told multiple times that he was "more mature" and wouldn't cause problems. Problems...like this. But at the first sign of any incident (that we became aware of), the situation was handled as swiftly as possible. I can back this up. They knew who I was but didn't know who he was. I gave them the run-around for a long time, coming up with others it could be. These guys are my friends too and I wanted to give them something that would be a surprise for them, rather than them knowing everything that was going on. Also, I vouched for OO as well. I'm not going to shy away from it.
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Post by Christian Kane on Jan 29, 2013 12:49:42 GMT -6
My face:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 12:49:46 GMT -6
I think Jon's already said it, but I don't want this to reflect at all on the Squid. He is one of the most polite, intelligent, easy-to-work-with handlers I've ever seen, and anyone who puts the blame on him for this incident is barking up the wrong tree.
I'm quick to dump those who have a bad reputation, but those with sterling ones, like him, I will defend to the ends of the earth.
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Post by Andrew Ashton on Jan 29, 2013 13:09:43 GMT -6
I think Jon's already said it, but I don't want this to reflect at all on the Squid. He is one of the most polite, intelligent, easy-to-work-with handlers I've ever seen, and anyone who puts the blame on him for this incident is barking up the wrong tree. Pay you later.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 13:27:38 GMT -6
I think Jon's already said it, but I don't want this to reflect at all on the Squid. He is one of the most polite, intelligent, easy-to-work-with handlers I've ever seen, and anyone who puts the blame on him for this incident is barking up the wrong tree. Pay you later.
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Post by Daisuke Iwakuma on Jan 29, 2013 13:29:23 GMT -6
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Post by Daisuke Iwakuma on Jan 29, 2013 13:29:45 GMT -6
My face: GO TO HELL, KANE.
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